It is interesting, indicative, and amusing to read what The Poison Dwarf (aka Nick Lowles) and his well-financed now mainstream group “Hate Not Hope” (HNH) have recently written about the O9A and about Mr Myatt in their latest propaganda “report” titled State Of Hate 2021.


HNH: Many of Britain’s nazi terrorists have been directly or indirectly influenced by the highly secretive Satanist group, the Order of Nine Angles (O9A)

TWS Nexion: Following our exposé about their lie that the O9A has “members” {1} HNH now write and talk about individuals being “directly or indirectly influenced by” the O9A.

However, as we noted in one of our exposés,

                  “those people they name are and [may] have been interested in the O9A, generally because they have either (a) misunderstood O9A esoteric philosophy based as it is on an individual years-long hermetic quest along the O9A Seven Fold Way, as explained in books such as the 1989 Naos text and in the 2019 text The Seofonfeald Paeth, or (b) those people have gotten lost in the O9A’s Labyrinthos Mythologicus designed as that was to test, select, confuse, mislead and intrigue.” {2}

HNH: Formed in 1972 by David Myatt, the O9A is unquestionably the most extreme Satanist group in the world and seeks the overthrow of modern society and the formation of a new National Socialist order.

TWS Nexion:

(i) HNH yet again provide nothing probative – no evidence – for their claim that Myatt formed or founded the O9A, in 1972 or in some other year. So their claim is a propagandistic lie, or at best it is hearsay, in their case hearsay repeated because of their prejudice about and hatred of both the O9A and Mr Myatt. {3}

(ii) We and others have repeatedly debunked their claim that the O9A is satanist, {4} for the O9A has “outgrown its identification with its original Satanic paradigm to evolve its system into novel forms”. {5}

One of these novel forms is usefully described by the term anarcho-nihilism.

HNH: It is legitimate to ask if we would have had the same level of nazi terrorism, especially the sadist strand that we have witnessed recently, if the police had cracked down earlier. The former leader of the nazi occult, David Myatt, openly wrote long tracts promoting and encouraging terrorism. He would latter lead a group that included London nailbomber David Copeland.

TWS Nexion: There is no evidence that Myatt was ever the “leader” of something termed the “nazi occult”. There is also nothing probative – no evidence – that Myatt wrote “long tracts promoting and encouraging terrorism.”

HNH: If Myatt had been stopped back then and help accountable for his writings then maybe, just maybe, the O9A would have folded and they would not have been around to spread their poison today.

TWS Nexion HNH chooses to lie, failing to mention that in 1998 – due to the machinations, prejudice, and hatred of Zionists such as The Poison Dwarf and Michael Whine of the influential and wealthy Board of Deputies of British Jews – Myatt was arrested during a Dawn Raid, at the village home he shared with his wife and family, by Detectives from SO12 (Special Branch) based at Scotland Yard and was interviewed that day at Malvern police station about being the author of such writings. During the search of his home the police seized his computers and files. Granted bail, Myatt was subsequently interviewed several times at Charing Cross police station by Detectives from SO12. In all his interviews Myatt denied being the author of such “terrorist” writings.

The police would spend three years – and enlist the help of the FBI with SO12 Detectives travelling to places like Canada to interview possible witnesses – trying to find evidence sufficient to convict Myatt in a court of law.

They did not find such evidence and in 2001, three years after his arrest, Myatt was released from his bail.

HNH: O9A’s prospects in 2021 will depend on whether the group is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the British government. Plans are already being laid inside O9A to go-to-ground if this is the case.

TWS Nexion:

(i) In regard to the O9A being “proscribed as a terrorist organisation,” as we wrote in our January 2021 essay Transgression, The O9A, And Infiltrators, the British government

                  “are looking for something that is not there […] the new, ‘dangerous’, Occult Phantom Menace invented in the last few years by a particular anti-fascist group who have described the O9A as an ‘incubator of terrorism’ and who have been at the forefront of the campaign to have the O9A banned by the government, and who have also spent several years spreading lies and disinformation about the O9A in the hope of discrediting it.” {6}

They are looking for something that is not there because the O9A is an Occult philosophy – a changing, evolving, sub-culture – and not a group, an organization, with a leader or leaders or with “members”. How can a philosophy – a sub-culture, a genré – be banned? How can a philosophy have members?

The most a government could do is ban books which contain the writings of Anton Long and ban books such as our The Seofonfeald Paeth currently available at https://wyrdsister.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/o9a-trilogy-print.pdf

But such a ban would only enhance the appeal of such books to certain people, while we “students of O9A philosophy” would still teach that philosophy to others in the manner of ancient hermeticism: in private, person to person. {7}

(ii) In regard to the rather silly claim that “plans are already being laid inside O9A to go-to-ground,” how can an Occult philosophy go-to-ground?

HNH: The O9A has an inner circle made up of those who have been together for over 20 years. This sits alongside an older guard, the veteran members David Myatt and Richard Moult.”

TWS Nexion: Yet again, HNH provide nothing probative – no evidence – for their claim regarding Myatt. Such a claim is propaganda designed to discredit and derived from prejudice, or it is hearsay, or it is someone or some many committing the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam.

HNH: The Poison Dwarf – and/or his fellow HNH travellers – claim the “leadership” of the O9A consists of Myatt, Moult, and Rachael Stirling, and that O9A “activity” takes place in Oxford, Wiltshire, Shropshire, and Yorkshire, and goes on to name some of those who they claim are leading O9A “activists”.

TWS Nexion:

(i) As we and others have written many times, {8} because the O9A is an Occult philosophy, and because that philosophy is based on the axiom of The Authority Of Individual Judgement, there is no leader nor any leadership.

(ii) In regard to O9A “activity” if HNH mean the activity of an individual following the O9A Seven Fold Way, or living the life of a Drecc or Niner, then such activity may well occur in places such as Oxford, Wiltshire, Shropshire, and Yorkshire, not to mention in Scotland, Italy, Russia, the United States, Canada, and elsewhere.

(iii) In regard to leading O9A “activists” if they mean people walking the streets carrying a flag bearing the O9A sigil, organizing and holding meetings about the O9A and giving public speeches about the O9A, then they are just being silly or, in their paranoia, they really do believe their own lies and propaganda about the O9A.

TWS Nexion
March 2021
v. 1.03

{1} One such exposé is available at https://wyrdsister.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/misunderstanding-the-o9a-v5a.pdf

{2} Lies Of Anti-Fascists About, And Misunderstandings Concerning,The O9A, available at https://wyrdsister.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/misunderstanding-the-o9a-v5a.pdf

{3} Prejudice is “preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience; bias, partiality; unreasoned dislike, hostility; an unreasoning preference or objection; a preliminary or anticipatory judgement.”

{4} Refer to https://wyrdsister.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/misunderstanding-the-o9a-v5a.pdf

{5} George Sieg, Angular Momentum: From Traditional to Progressive Satanism in the Order of Nine Angles, Conference paper at Satanism in the Modern World, November 2009, Norwegian University of Science and Technology.

{6} The essay is included in https://wyrdsister.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/an-aeonic-perspective-v1a.pdf

{7} The Australian government has recently listed the Sonnenkrieg Division as a “terrorist group”. The order banning SKD mentions the O9A, stating: “SKD is a United Kingdom (UK) based extreme right-wing organisation which adheres to a violent white-supremacist ideology inspired both by the historical National Socialist German Worker’s Party (Nazi Party) and by the Satanic Order of Nine Angles movement.” Source: https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Listedterroristorganisations/Pages/sonnenkrieg-division.aspx

{8} See for example, Authority, Learning, and Culture, In O9A Tradition and The Authority Of Individual Judgement: Interpretation And Meaning in The Seofonfeald Paeth available at https://wyrdsister.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/o9a-trilogy-print.pdf

See also Differing Views: An Example Of The Authority Of Individual Judgment In The Real World, available at https://wyrdsister.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/differing-o9a-views.pdf